Widder System 2 electric suit review I ordered the whole shebang last week - System 2 (high collar) vest, arm chaps, gloves, and leg chaps. Approximately $400 US. Not cheap, but if it enables me to ride my $7000 motorcycle for at least part of the winter, it's cheap in my eyes. I put it to the test coming home from work early this morning. I had on everything 'cept the gloves (Widder says their gloves run large, so I ordered a size smaller than normal, and they were a size too big.) with no other insulation on the legs save my jeans, and no liner in my Cordura jacket. I'm a skinny guy - 6'-2" @148 lbs. In 35 degree weather, my teeth would normally be chattering after 3 blocks, with the liner out of the jacket. I certainly wouldn't be able to deal with highway wind chills, even with the liner. With this Widder combo, I was loving life. I flew up Lake Shore Drive, at twice the posted speed, with nary a shiver (though my shield fogged up completely with every exhalation - even with a breath shield). Even my unheated fingers and toes were comfortable, perhaps because my body didn't have to cut off blood flow to the extremities to conserve heat. I figure that with proper riding pants and the liner back in the jacket, I'm good for highway riding down to 20 degrees. All I need now is another snowless winter like last year. I've never tried Gerbing or any of the other manufacturers, and I know that the "which electric suit is best" argument can get as heated as the Amsoil debate, but I can tell you that the Widder will suit my needs perfectly. If you get any of their products, make sure they're snug fitting. You don't want to wear anything more than a light cotton shirt or long johns under the vest. If you try to wear it over a sweater, you'll never feel it and you'll think the product is worthless. If you wear it on bare skin, you'll be in pain from the heat. Other things: The System 2, with the high heated collar, rules. The warmth is carried all the way up to my chin. It's also pretty ingenious how the current for the arm chaps is carried by two snaps on each of the vest's shoulders, but it's not obvious which chap is for which arm. They should be labeled, but they're not. I had to dick around with them for a while before I figured out which way was more comfortable. Now it's all good. -- DredheadV2.0 DoD 33-1/3 2002 Suzuki GSF1200S (Allen Stevens) November 21, 2002