Roadgear XCaliber Pants review I purchased the Roadgear xcaliber pants a few months ago, and have been happy so far. I've worn them in over 100 degree heat, and they were OK until I stopped. I suspect they are all hot when you're not moving! They have also been very waterproof so far. I haven't tried them in the cold, but I suspect they will be fine. I wore ski pants last year and was comfortable down to 10 degrees for my 45 minute commute. My normal pants size is 34 X 34. I tried the Tourmaster, Joe Rocket, and Hein Gericke, and all were either too big in the waist, or too short in the legs. None of them had the liner either. The Roadgears fit well, but order them large in the waist. I'm using a 40 X 33. They were the only pants I could find that had the zip-out liner, and were under $300. The Aerostich I think ran about $440 by the time you added a liner. I found the customer service at Roadgear to be above average also. They didn't get the size right the first time, then sent me 2 sizes to try - without charging my credit card. I just sent back the pair I didn't want. Hope this helps... Mike Reid COG 4756 Loveland CO